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Well Fuck. Much More Eloquent

Much more eloquent than I am. Got bigger balls too. I am posting this here for no other reason than I want to be able to refer back to it. Remember it. Enact it.

Right now most of my friends that were Trump supporters are being *mostly* very quiet about it. There are a couple that are "crowing" and I suspect we won't be friends for very much longer. Most of these are acquaintances and can be quickly jettisoned and forgotten. Some I keep around just so I can keep track of their current level of "Fuckin' Crazy". Because they worry me.

One close friend told me that some of his friends were getting threats and other stuff because they supported Trump. And I needed to stop with the Left Wing Radical stuff. I'm not a radical. I am left leaning. As I have gotten older I've gotten worse about it. Or better, depending on your point of view.

Says I - "Really? You have got to be kidding me. But... Maybe Y'all should be. Look what you people have given us for a president. You honestly think he'll be better than our current Pres. Or than Secretary Clinton would have been? You're fucking deluded. Are you realizing that now?"

No answer. This was an actual conversation I had with one of my best friends. We have always been on the opposite side from each other politically. But still close friends. I don't know that I'll be able to carry on with business as usual. Or even friends as usual with some.

Most of the folk I know that voted for Trump are not the stereotypical Trump supporters. Some voted for him simply because he was the Republican Candidate and they vote straight tickets. Because that is what they always do. I am not usually a straight ticket voter. I did this time, however. And I likely will for the foreseeable future. Even some of my goddam relatives vote republican because they buy the whole Liberal bullshit that is put out by the RNC. Most of them have used public assistance from time to time. Others have not. And still they go there.

Not sure what most of them are thinking now, because it is hard for me to discuss this election without become enraged. I cannot even ask.

One or two have volunteered that a terrible mistake has been made. Or even "Might" have been made. And one of these guys is a serious second amendment guy. Very private in his views for the most part. He doesn't post them all over FB as a matter of course. I'm grateful for that. Good Catholic boy he is.

But there are others, I cannot even ask. I'm afraid of the answer. These are people I held in high regard and wanted in my life. In some cases I thought that I needed them in my life.

I valued their judgment on things. I dunno if I can any more. It's been very polarizing and I am sorely disappointed that some of these people decided a sociopath with the social skills of an 8 year old, would make a better president than an actual Statesman. *Stateswoman?*

His cabinet choices bear out my fears about a government under this guy... If you were looking to pick the absolute worst people to run the departments from a Cabinet Level, all you have to do is look at his choices. If Putin played him, he's done it really well.

And if the Russians influenced the election, where is the outcry to have this investigated? The senior Republican leadership are suspiciously quiet... Hmmmm? If it was Obama or Clinton that were seemingly duplicitous in this they'd have 19 different investigations going. You can bet on that.

I am sorely disappointed in the state of our states. United or not. And don't get me started on the damned Texas State Government. It's a goddam Republican shitshow.

Any way it's an awful long intro just to get you to read something from the Daily KOS.

Person said it better than I can, I just wanna keep it around for reference *grins* if for nothing else...



http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/26/1614776/-Message-to-my-Trump-supporting-Facebook-friends

Full text follows:



OK Facebook friends, time to block my newsfeed.

Or unfriend me.

If you’ve ever posted anything remotely racist or misogynistic or promoted gun violence or made fun of political correctness or promulgated lies about President Obama or former Secretary of State Clinton, then I blocked your news feed long ago.

I am one of those “elite liberals” that you got back at when you voted for Donald Trump.

Yes, I think that a person who is running for President should be able to clearly explain his or her policies. And should actually have some policies. And know how the government works. And care how the government works.

And have a working knowledge of world geography and foreign policy.

I think that the person who runs the most powerful country on the planet should take that job very fucking seriously.

I think that “supporting our military” should mean that we do not send our brave young men and women to needless and endless wars. Do you realize that we’ve been in Afghanistan for 16 years now? And for what?

I think that our country has an imperialistic foreign policy and that often times we reap what we sow. I think that the architects of the Iraq War (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice) committed war crimes and have the blood of all of our slain and maimed soldiers and innocent civilians on their hands.

I think that Guantanamo Bay is a bloody stain on our national character.

That “People kill people, guns don’t kill people” line is most backassward bullshit that I’ve ever heard. People with guns kill people. And not everyone should have a gun. And certainly not an arsenal. And no I am not naïve enough to think that restrictions on gun access will prevent all violent gun deaths. But for fuck’s sake, can we start somewhere?

I think that words matter. Perhaps you were happier in a world where kids were called “retards” and some boys were called “faggots,” but I would rather live in a civilized and polite world.

Maybe you will blast “Merry Christmas” as loud as you can, but I will keep saying “Happy Holidays,” because that is more inclusive. As in not purposefully leaving anyone out. As in being kind. As in just fucking acknowledging that your reality is not everyone’s reality. And that by acknowledging someone else’s reality, that yours is not in jeopardy. What are you all afraid of anyway? Is a mass of Muslim immigrants going to take your Christmas away?

I’m more afraid of the mass of Christians that are trying to teach kids in Texas that creationism is real.

I think that those of you who put “Blue Lives Matter” signs on your lawn ought to be ashamed of yourselves for thinking for one minute that there is no racism in this country and that young black men being gunned down in the street by police is not a problem.

And for those of you who were worried that life as we knew it was coming to an end when Bernie Sanders suggested universal health care and free college education, look to yourselves first. Guess what? Those state universities that you send your kids to? They are subsidized by taxpayers. Why do you think they are so much cheaper that private colleges? That is SOCIALISM!

Are your parents on Medicare? SOCIALISM!

Do your parents collect Social Security? SOCIALISM!

Do your police officers, firefighters, prison guards have benefits and a pension? SOCIALISM!

Why is it that when it benefits you, it’s not socialism?

I think that everyone, from birth to death, should have access to basic health care.That means I believe in a single payer system. I think that the wealthiest country in the history of the world can afford this.

The Affordable Care Act, the compromise between leaving 20 million people with no care and a single payer plan, is flawed, but it is morally bereft to overturn it. Those members of the House who voted to repeal it so many times should have been spending that time coming up with a better system.

And do any of you understand corporate welfare? Here’s an example: You shop at Walmart because it’s cheap. Walmart is the biggest employer in the country. It does not pay its employees enough for them to live on. So some of them go on welfare. And many of them have to use the Affordable Care Act to get health insurance. Who funds welfare? Taxpayers. Who funds the ACA? Taxpayers.

So Walmart makes a huge profit but doesn’t pay its employees a living wage so taxpayers pay to support them. Still want to buy your goods at Walmart?

And yes, there should be a minimum wage that is livable. How could you be against that?

So yes, I’m an elite liberal. I buy organic foods when I can because I know that pesticides are harmful to the earth and I care about preserving the planet for the next generation. I think that clean water and clean air is worth preserving and that there have to be strong laws to protect them. I recycle. I reuse plastic bags because the thought of all of the plastic trash I’ve personally created in my 55 years on earth makes me sick. I try to use polite and inclusive language because I care about others. I don’t believe in war. I believe we should do everything we can to prevent violence. I believe that health care is a basic human right. And that women’s rights are human rights.

I even listen to NPR.

I thought George Bush was a really horrible president.

But, you really got me this time.

You elected Trump. Look up the DSM-IV criteria for Narcisistic Personality Disorder and you will find that he meets all the criteria. Look up the criteria for ADD as well and you have your man. He does not read about issues because he lacks the attention span. He speaks at a third grade level.

He brags about his crimes against women. He founded the fake Trump University. He has innumerable conflicts of interest. He is so overwhelmed he has to have his kids help him.

His education secretary nominee doesn’t believe in public education. The EPA nominee has sued the EPA before. His VP believes that gays should have conversion therapy. The Labor Secretary nominee is anti-labor. The nominee for Ambassador to Israel has views which are guaranteed to inflame the situation in the Middle East. And who knows who he’ll nominate to the Supreme Court. He is the President Elect of the FUCKING UNITED STATES OF AMERICA but he is watching Saturday Night Live and tweeting about it.

HE DOESN’T KNOW ANYTHING.

In what way could the pussy-grabbing President elect with untreated ADD and a personality disorder who tells more lies than any politician in modern history possibly make this country better? Yes, hatred and stupidity reign, thanks to you.


Good job. You showed me this time.

Comments

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tx_cronopio
Dec. 27th, 2016 08:47 pm (UTC)
Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I know two people on FB that I am sure were Trump voters, and you know, I just don't feel the same way about them, even though they are long-term friends. This is way different than normal political disagreement -- I honestly feel like they've had a hand in the destruction of our nation. And I see very little hope.

Yrs, bleakly.
texasts
Dec. 27th, 2016 09:09 pm (UTC)
I know you're feeling it. I hope it isn't as bad as it could be. But I think it will be bad.
kukla_red
Dec. 27th, 2016 08:52 pm (UTC)
Yes, all of this. Definitely. This is why I have been in a funk for weeks, months and it may extend to years. I have disliked presidents in the past - I was in college when Reagan was elected the first time and I can remember being in the pottery studio when the news came over the radio (NPR, of course). I was throwing a pot and I was so enraged, I grabbed the clay off the wheel and threw it across the room where it hit the wall and left a stain that lasted for a long time. I was not crazy about Bush Sr. and I thought Bush Jr. was a joke, but neither of them reached the level of insanity that the Orange baboon elicits from me. I was not naive enough to think that we were a "post racial" society, but I have been stunned by the level of racist hatred that has become so prevalent since Trumplethinskin made it OK for the KKK to come out of the shadows.

As bad as 2016 has been - and with all the deaths of people who made life better it has really sucked moose - I am downright terrified about what is coming down the pike at us in the next 4 years.
texasts
Dec. 27th, 2016 09:11 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah. It scares the hell outta me. I think that must be apparent though. I'm good and angry about it too.
indighost
Dec. 27th, 2016 10:45 pm (UTC)
I agree with so much of what you said here.
indighost
Dec. 27th, 2016 10:48 pm (UTC)
I read that article you linked/pasted, and it just seems so self-evidently true to me. I cannot for the life of me figure out how anyone can read it and NOT nod their head and say "well yes, this is all true". I know we are "suppose to" stay friends with all the Trump supporters so we can keep the dialogue going and educate them so they make better choices next time, but fuck that. I can't. It's not my job to educate people who are willfully ignorant and proud of it. And I don't have the energy to listen to their bullshit nor the patience to keep silent nor the fortitude to engage in constant arguments. So they're fucking OUT of my life if they indicate their political beliefs run towards the Narcissistic Cheeto.
texasts
Dec. 28th, 2016 09:00 pm (UTC)
Yes. I'm generally a tolerant guy, but this is testing both my patience AND my tolerance.
indighost
Dec. 29th, 2016 05:21 pm (UTC)
Yes, I can understand that (and relate)!
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anita_margarita
Dec. 28th, 2016 04:10 am (UTC)
Totally agree. I don't know what to do about my Trump-supporting friends - well, I have already lost one longtime friend permanently. This has permanently damaged my relationship to others, if for no other reason than this: they may not be racist, but they have no problem with a racist president.
texasts
Dec. 28th, 2016 08:57 pm (UTC)
I've deep sixed an old bar friend recently and someone that I either followed or she followed me from here on to FB. The two of them got together and started trying to talk a bit too much shit about "they" and "those people" and "them" on one of my more liberal posts like we weren't even in the "room"and I didn't even warn them (which I usually shoot one across the bow before I drop the "BAN HAMMER") I have long been tired of the guy's "know it all RWNJ attitude" both in person and online so I didn't feel too bad about jettisoning him. She, on the other hand surprised me. We hadn't exchanged more than a couple words on FB in several years. I had hidden her posts though, as she always had some sales scheme going on. Still didn't feel too godawful about that one either. 'BYE Felecia!'

Edited at 2016-12-28 08:58 pm (UTC)
z3bulin
Dec. 29th, 2016 03:04 pm (UTC)
Agree with everything written here. Sadly, most of the supporters I know are family, and while it'd be great to not have to deal with the political BS, it's hard to cut them out of our lives completely.
indighost
Dec. 29th, 2016 05:23 pm (UTC)
My inlaws are totally pro-Trump.

Gives me all the more reason to think they are complete idiots.
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